6502 runs Turing Machine in Conway's Life using 1981 hardwar

vol.litwr · William Wobbler Joined: 04 Aug 2012 Posts: 92

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjUb8g2kED0
It is not Commodore but I hope an extended 8-bit Commodore computer may run this big pattern one day too.
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2x2=4

Clayton

vol.litwr wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjUb8g2kED0
It is not Commodore but I hope an extended 8-bit Commodore computer may run this big pattern one day too.

It looks like a familiar interface minus actual names of parameters and files of this video having the names shown.

Do you have information on the developer or software availability?

I never knew Alan Turing, personally, but I wish I did. It wasn't possible due to his early departure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502

Conway's Game of Life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...me_of_Life

Clayton · Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:53 pm Post subject:

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Clayton · Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:30 pm Post subject:

Group energy expressed fervently in a very energetic, sympathetic, and coherent way - this song has energy that lasts after I was done listening to it.

It's nice not to feel all alone in the world.

The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIqnXTqg8I

I wonder if it will help others. (higher probability +)

Complaint: I wish I could concentrate while working with this song in the background - too enjoyable! ++

note: I don't listen, to any media while I work doing something else besides media; other+

<research: <not for any sum of money> $Sum = 0
location: lemon64.com - "What are you listening to?"
day: 11/20/2016

<Entry Num> 1 of unknown number

Time = + 3.00 minutes <minimum>
other locations: unknown
Geo: Germany (member stats)

1 positive result
Hope+

1 negative result
distractive +

length of personal affect <observer> many hours so far

minimum 6 hours.
effects: distraction subsiding after stated duration

Personal conclusion:

use sparingly while working, unless physical exertion is involved.

what % of world = english speaking?
what ages of humans have heard this song?
Is there any associated age range of occurrence?
What awards may exist?
Sales history, time+
Current popularity rating(s) <sources needed>
Original distribution path to public
Original distribution path to media
Current distribution paths
Non-media occurrences (L) = live performance
Location of L = unknown <history, time+>

total effect = unknown

Recommendation <personal environmental interest>
other people +
personal <observer> music interest +
further interest +

rough estimate - I must focus on other possibilities.
needed: other input for further analysis

ZenEmu · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:09 am Post subject:

Clayton wrote:

For what it's worth, this almost hour long video explains what Turing was up to during WWII. In order to solve the calculations needed, the electro-mechanical computer was invented to decipher a great many secret German messages which were encoded on the Enigma machine. (The electro-mechanical computers were called bronze goddesses due to all of the copper wiring and switches)

Secrets of War Season 1, Ep 2: The Ultra Enigma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_KqhVvp9Vo

The other brilliant and mostly unknown mathematician, Gordon Welchman, was also a big part of the leading team.

He made major awareness about the code available before the computation cycle of breaking the encoded portion was possible.

His other great contribution was to speed up the computations by introducing the "diagonal board" into the matrix.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Welchman

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I have not done any research (lately), except here standard.uk (below)

I did read the information in this entire article of their's.

Note: reading this exact article; revealed other major members of the team - by name.

The information in the movie does have team members appearing.

It is most of what I know about the film as I have seen the movie - (many times).

I haven't read the book. (no spare time)

It must be known to "cloud" users" about who to thank for it.

Other(s), God, or their maker(s), and faith(s).

I'm not over stating. The cloud exists as part of what is designed to protect you in many ways that you may not know about.

The short of the importance; Codebreaker Gordon Welchman, is a real life super-hero - better than any movie super-hero.

+ TEAM!

Note: computers were teams of people - before the bronze goddess

(super team intelligence)

Bletchley Park code-breakers: who was Gordon Welchman?

or, look for "Codebreaker Gordon Welchman"

"Bletchley Park: Code-Breaking's Forgotten Genius" (original title)

To be fair, when you visit Bletchley Park (It is now largely an excellent museum), they go out of their way to point out that Turing played an important but actually relatively small part in a much bigger project. They go out of their way to give Welchman the credit he deserves.
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Zen

Clayton · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:15 pm Post subject:

ZenEmu wrote:

Clayton wrote:

For what it's worth, this almost hour long video explains what Turing was up to during WWII. In order to solve the calculations needed, the electro-mechanical computer was invented to decipher a great many secret German messages which were encoded on the Enigma machine. (The electro-mechanical computers were called bronze goddesses due to all of the copper wiring and switches)

Secrets of War Season 1, Ep 2: The Ultra Enigma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_KqhVvp9Vo

The other brilliant and mostly unknown mathematician, Gordon Welchman, was also a big part of the leading team.

He made major awareness about the code available before the computation cycle of breaking the encoded portion was possible.

His other great contribution was to speed up the computations by introducing the "diagonal board" into the matrix.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Welchman

===========================================

I have not done any research (lately), except here standard.uk (below)

I did read the information in this entire article of their's.

Note: reading this exact article; revealed other major members of the team - by name.

The information in the movie does have team members appearing.

It is most of what I know about the film as I have seen the movie - (many times).

I haven't read the book. (no spare time)

It must be known to "cloud" users" about who to thank for it.

Other(s), God, or their maker(s), and faith(s).

I'm not over stating. The cloud exists as part of what is designed to protect you in many ways that you may not know about.

The short of the importance; Codebreaker Gordon Welchman, is a real life super-hero - better than any movie super-hero.

+ TEAM!

Note: computers were teams of people - before the bronze goddess

(super team intelligence)

Bletchley Park code-breakers: who was Gordon Welchman?

or, look for "Codebreaker Gordon Welchman"

"Bletchley Park: Code-Breaking's Forgotten Genius" (original title)

To be fair, when you visit Bletchley Park (It is now largely an excellent museum), they go out of their way to point out that Turing played an important but actually relatively small part in a much bigger project. They go out of their way to give Welchman the credit he deserves.

Entry Number: 2 of unknown number

Other,

portions of individual input may be inclusive to a solution
pre-existing work in contribution of general effort may be necessary
note: Turing machine
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_machine

May have no total effect if disregarded
May have no total effect if time sensitive
May need greater human impetus
May need extensive resources or personnel to seek throughput

Note: Resources needed
see budget

time: time availability, processing time, time for analysis
time involved for any solution throughput
time of order of importance determination
time considerations of lack of relevant throughput

= is it solvable within necessary time considerations

see materials list
see available technology
see availability of necessary personnel
see national or international cooperation
see public, awareness encapsulation while processing solution
see other emanating possibilities from primary solution

spurious:

what realizations exist among the general community regarding original efforts

what realizations exist among the scientific community regarding original efforts

what realizations exist among the technical community regarding original efforts

what realizations exist in education regarding these combined efforts

what post facto realizations exist, if any

result

1 observer of actual historical remains of project now available for public consumption

Personnel information obtained about public perceptions of project

Observer location: Location: United Kingdom (lemon64 member stats)

Observer considerations: technical background, non-technical background. education, work or personal experience

unknown quantities: see above

other: see public documentation of original subject

Effects: large quantity of world consumption and use of original project

meaningful contributions stemming from original work
Various, extensive, military, governmental, public, private, industrial, business, education
use: substantial and increasing

other, see known military, public, governmental, educational, scientific, business and private communications, entertainment

total effect = unknown

no more time available for immediate analysis

personal interest: +
group interest +
other interests +

order of importance = (various unknown quantities)

hammerhead · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:49 pm Post subject:

WTF?

If you had anything to say there I think it got lost in the ocean of repetition...

Clayton · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:02 pm Post subject:

hammerhead wrote:

WTF?

If you had anything to say there I think it got lost in the ocean of repetition...

Yes, perceptions of intangibles often requires broad consideration

Specific search "Diagonal Board Bletchley Park"

Instant yield considerations on wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/ind...hn2d3dm3l0

mistermsk · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:07 pm Post subject:

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Zippy Zapp · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:13 pm Post subject:

Another thread bites the dust.
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Commodore - changing the world 8 bits at a time.

Clayton · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:55 pm Post subject:

I wonder if Lemon64 has time to edit extraneous and unimportant contributions

I wonder if Lemon64 allows other primates to jump up and down on top of their collective processing?

UNKNOWN

Will the computing cycle be continually interrupted by casual observers or other.

<non-concerned entities>
<non-contributory political interests>
<humans trying to entertain themselves>
<humans interested in intentional interruption of the computing cycle - intentionally>
<disruptive factoring begins>

total effect = unknown

likelihood of success with associated factors

total effect = unknown

likelihood of success with continuance of these disruptive factors

negative (-)

Recommendation - remove process

Main characteristic = human communication sample

input <disruptive process> unneeded in the future computing cycles

Leading to a negative outcome. <warning>

other: financial, industrial or commercial <disruptive factoring>

unknown quantities

hammerhead · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:56 pm Post subject:

Reminds me of some of the more boring Ship Minds from the Iain M. Banks Culture novels.

Clayton · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:29 pm Post subject:

hammerhead wrote:

Reminds me of some of the more boring Ship Minds from the Iain M. Banks Culture novels.

data: main characteristic <pointing to human emotion of boring>

bore1
[bawr, bohr]
Spell Syllables
verb (used with object), bored, boring.
1.
to weary by dullness, tedious repetition, unwelcome attentions, etc.:
The long speech bored me.
noun
2.
a dull, tiresome, or uncongenial person.
3.
a cause of ennui or petty annoyance:
repetitious tasks that are a bore to do.
Origin Expand
1760-70; of uncertain origin
Can be confused Expand
boar, Boer, boor, bore.
board, bored.
board, bored, committee, council, panel, trust.
Synonyms Expand
See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
1. fatigue, tire, annoy.
Antonyms Expand
1. amuse; thrill, enrapture.
bore2
[bawr, bohr]
Spell Syllables
verb (used with object), bored, boring.
1.
to pierce (a solid substance) with some rotary cutting instrument.
2.
to make (a hole) by drilling with such an instrument.
3.
to form, make, or construct (a tunnel, mine, well, passage, etc.) by hollowing out, cutting through, or removing a core of material:
to bore a tunnel through the Alps; to bore an oil well 3000 feet deep.
4.
Machinery. to enlarge (a hole) to a precise diameter with a cutting tool within the hole, by rotating either the tool or the work.
5.
to force (an opening), as through a crowd, by persistent forward thrusting (usually followed by through or into); to force or make (a passage).
verb (used without object), bored, boring.
6.
to make a hole in a solid substance with a rotary cutting instrument.
7.
Machinery. to enlarge a hole to a precise diameter.
8.
(of a substance) to admit of being bored:
Certain types of steel do not bore well.
noun
9.
a hole made or enlarged by boring.
10.
the inside diameter of a hole, tube, or hollow cylindrical object or device, such as a bushing or bearing, engine cylinder, or barrel of a gun.
Origin Expand
before 900; Middle English; Old English borian; cognate with Old High German borōn, Old Norse bora, Latin forāre

Recommendation:

Due to human characteristics, it is important to approach with consideration beyond normally allowed attention levels.

hammerhead · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:03 pm Post subject:

I pity anyone who has to interact with you in real life, when your preferred method of communication seems to be in the style of a spambot.

Clayton · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:08 pm Post subject:

hammerhead wrote:

I pity anyone who has to interact with you in real life, when your preferred method of communication seems to be in the style of a spambot.

coherence: necessary need, not preferred

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