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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: New features on Youtube Reply with quote

I notice that if you are watching a long video on Youtube and your broadband is slow you can't pause it and buffer it up anymore.It only buffers a little bit and then stops.If you hit refresh it gives you a little bit more but often after forcing you to watch five seconds of an ad.What a royal pain but what do you expect from the people who gave us the wonderful Google Chrome.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: New features on Youtube Reply with quote

Youtube has turned into a pain in the unmentionables since Google took it over, especially by tying it to a Google+ account.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! *NOW* i see how they were right saying google was evil Wink I mean are they seriously doing all this? Limited/awkward to use search feat, this toolbox thing to the left hand side on yt - who needs these?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: New features on Youtube Reply with quote

ninelivecat wrote:
I notice that if you are watching a long video on Youtube and your broadband is slow you can't pause it and buffer it up anymore.It only buffers a little bit and then stops.If you hit refresh it gives you a little bit more but often after forcing you to watch five seconds of an ad.What a royal pain but what do you expect from the people who gave us the wonderful Google Chrome.

Never experienced that, but sounds like a bandwith saving measurement. but i got 50/50mbit so it isn't in the usual definition of slow. is this the flash or the html5 version by the way?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Occasionally we do get slow internet here (even though I am on ADSL2+) and yes this new 'feature' of pausing the download is very annoying.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed it happening too on long videos all of a sudden... actually it just did! (Note the buffering indicator in the center)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed this pathetic crap as well. Along with all the ads, youtube is basically unusable these days.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but unlike software you can't roll back to older versions Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Youtube seriously blows especially across multiple clients, I've found many things i've tagged to "watch later" via my PC cant be watched on my iPad or AppleTV because they just seem to not exist on that client.

A classic example is the BSG: Blood & Chrome clips, I can not watch them on my ATV so I just wont bother!

And Google's whole "dont be evil" thing is a farce, just look at android, made for carriers so loaded with bloatware backed-up by a lousy google "play" store that is chock full of malware invested apps!

Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they started this load stop thing a while back. It sucks. I have a really slow connection at work and you tube is pretty much unwatchable from there now. Yeah, so I have to watch youtube on my own time. Bah. Smile But I was watching some Let's Plays and that's out at work now.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No buffering while paused - A lot of people complained about it in Google Groups, with some claiming that it still works. Naturally, Google has declined to provide an explanation.

Something else very annoying that I've noticed on some videos; The video will pause and a little round stopwatch type icon appears in the corner and does about a ten second countdown and then the video continues. You know when they put a little circle to represent a clock face and then it sort of 'wipes' around in a circle until it's all gone? Yeah, that type of thing. If you click the play button you can force the video to resume immediately, but I don't understand why it's pausing in the first place. It's not for buffering, it just stops, like it was programmed into the video.

As for the ads, I never see any ads on YouTube. Not one. What's my secret? I use this;

http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

It's a "Hosts" file which redirects all advertising URLs to your own system, causing them to fail. The result is that it's impossible for your browser (or anything else) to connect to the advertising servers. On many sites, you will see a blank spot, possibly with an error message where the ads are supposed to be. On YouTube, the videos just play. No ads before the videos, no ads popping up during the videos, etc. At least not on any of the videos I've watched over the past 3-4 years.

On the downside, installing the Hosts file will prevent Hulu videos from working. If it can't contact the ad servers, it refuses to play the video. However on Windows, it's usually enough to just temporarily rename the Hosts file, and maybe re-load the browser, then rename it back when you're done.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My solution to YouTube stupidity: a command line and cclive. Ah, luxury! Download and watch whatever you want from YouTube whenever you want. Also good for saving videos for posterity in case they get nuked for 'copyright infringement'.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urban Space Cowboy wrote:
My solution to YouTube stupidity: a command line and cclive.

True. I use Keepvid to do that but 98% of the stuff I want to watch once and forget.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urban Space Cowboy wrote:
My solution to YouTube stupidity: a command line and cclive. Ah, luxury! Download and watch whatever you want from YouTube whenever you want. Also good for saving videos for posterity in case they get nuked for 'copyright infringement'.
Or DownloadHelper for Firefox. Been using it for years.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the "Pwn YouTube" bookmarklet myself;

http://deturl.com/bookmarklet-...outube.asp

I'm not crazy about the fact that it relies on a third-party site to work, but they seem to keep it updated and once activated, it shows you all the available formats and sizes for a video, not just the one that you were watching.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Videoget IIRC which downloads anything...but lately it fails on some videos where YTD does not etc...but that only allows one at a time except you can run multiple instances of it so you end up with a taskbar full of the same program running many times Laughing

Basically I noticed this too ages ago so now I just leave it playing and mute the sound and then come back to it but if there's a 30 second advert at the end I think the cache is flushed.

It is annoying when at peak times here the internet basically drops below a 1mbps connection which is 1999 speeds eek!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dJOS wrote:
Youtube seriously blows especially across multiple clients, I've found many things i've tagged to "watch later" via my PC cant be watched on my iPad or AppleTV because they just seem to not exist on that client.

A classic example is the BSG: Blood & Chrome clips, I can not watch them on my ATV so I just wont bother!

And Google's whole "dont be evil" thing is a farce, just look at android, made for carriers so loaded with bloatware backed-up by a lousy google "play" store that is chock full of malware invested apps!

Evil or Very Mad

The failure for certain videos to play on mobile devices is not Google's fault but more the fault of rights holders and legal restrictions placed on content. It is the uploader (and presumably rights holder) that restricts Youtube video playback on mobile devices.



There are hacks available for Android OS to trick Youtube so that it identifies your phone/tablet as a Windows PC to bypass mobile restrictions - it involves hex-editing the Android Adobe Flash player. After applying that hack I can now access the same Youtube content as my desktop PC as well as viewing videos from Hulu's website in my phone's browser.

The 'bloat' is not installed by Google but by the carriers. Get yourself a Nexus, generic Samsung or HTC Android and experience bloat-free Android. Or download NoBloat. Or flash Cyogenmod or Miui.

Yes, the Android market has a tendency towards malware. This is due to the fact that apps are not reviewed prior to submission, unlike Apple. So download at your own risk, much like on your PC.

Most of the apps are garbage anyway - apps to access websites when your mobile browser already does that, albeit without cute shiny icons. These apps are geared to the compulsive types who need to be notified the second something they post gets a response and would commit suicide if their internet were cut off.

There are plenty of meds to treat that ADD.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lately I've been noticing something new and annoying...

Often when I watch a video, I'll spot a couple others of interest in the sidebar. Rather than clicking one, watching it and then going back, I'll just open the video in a new tab. Then sometimes I see interesting videos in that sidebar and open them in new tabs as well. Before I know it, I'll have 6-7 tabs open, with videos either paused or at the end and showing a selection of other videos.

Recently it seems that when I later go back to those tabs, the video player has been replaced by a gray box with an exclamation point in a circle in the center of of it. There are no controls and to get the video back I have to reload the page.

A few times, it's happened right in the middle of a video.

Anyone else seen this?
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