Flyer Network Modem

c64web · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:58 am Post subject:

Did the online firmware update v1.1.2 is on the Flyer now. All network devices should update this way.

load “^:*”,7 too update firmware ^ is the up arrow key next to the restore key Smile

Thanks Sean.R

First grip!
I think the LEDS are too bright especially the RED and two BLUE ones you can't help but stare at them. I put a piece of white plastic tape over them much better.

Registered at commodoreonline and created a new disk image using the sites disk tools, added some games files too the new image and renamed it games. Now i have a disk image on Commodoreonline all there is too do is save it too the Flyer. So far easy as your ABC.

load"disk:games",7 and got NO AUTH "hmmm".

Fixed that using the CONFIG program that comes with the Flyer, I had not added my username and password from my account on commodoreonline too the cloud one settings on the Flyer.

load"disk:games",7 and got lots of LEDs flashing and Downloading on the display along with a BAR graph letting me know how far into the download it is.

The download of a disk image is slow compared too loading files from a uIEC, but this was too be expected, the LCD display and the flashing LEDs let you know things are going well! 25 seconds later your ready to go. One disk image on the flyer.

load"$",10 and then list ---- there they are.
load"avenger",10 and your lock and loaded.

Sometime later after playing avenger Smile

Submit.

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geekwithsocialskills · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:29 am Post subject:

c64web wrote:

Did the online firmware update v1.1.2 is on the Flyer now. All network devices should update this way.

load “^:*”,7 too update firmware ^ is the up arrow key next to the restore key Smile

Thanks Sean.R

You're welcome Shane. Glad to help. After it finishes loading, you can type LIST then press RETURN and it will tell you what was included in the update.

FYI the Flyer manual is pretty detailed, so give it a good look to find out more goodness it can do.

c64web wrote:

First grip!
I think the LEDS are too bright especially the RED and two BLUE ones you can't help but stare at them. I put a piece of white plastic tape over them much better.

Who doesn't like blinking lights? Hehe. Turn off the lights in your room and instant light show thanks to Flyer and your Commodore computer Smile

analogkid · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:18 am Post subject:

Glad you're up and running Shane! Just a couple of quick notes...

Network upload/download speed should get a boost in the next firmware update (1.1.3), hopefully posted sometime this weekend. This will speed up access to the flash memory as well (you'll notice faster disk formatting/validation on the Flyer, etc).

Also, DHCP support is in 1.1.2 but still in "beta", and therefore is not officially documented yet Smile

If desired, it can be enabled manually as follows: open7,7,15,"config:dhcp=1":close7

Brandon

c64web · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:37 am Post subject:

I wanted too give loading files off my network a go before dinner. So quickly setup an alias for one my domains on the Flyer and downloaded a commodore game file via this command load"a2:loderunner.prg",7 Can drop as many files into the web folder on that domain as i like! However after using the disk image tools and web interface on commodoreonline it makes more sense to use there service.

Enabled and gave DHCP ago, however DHCP did not discover our network settings will try again when the new firmware is released.
This side of the house uses a wifi network bridge that connects too another on the other side that plugs into a 8 port switch connected too the router there are 11 devices working on the network at this moment.

So far the Flyer has proven a robust network device besides DHCP "beta anyway" it has
not given me a ounce of trouble. I hope too install network cable too this side of the house soon.

enjoy
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wizardnj · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject:

Mine is here since Friday.

Brought it to work today to play with it some(I hope).

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geekwithsocialskills · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject:

wizardnj wrote:

Mine is here since Friday.

Brought it to work today to play with it some(I hope).

You have a Commodore computer setup at your work? That sir is pretty darn cool IMHO. You should definitely play with your Flyer today. It's a moral imperative Smile

c64web · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:53 am Post subject:

geekwithsocialskills wrote:

wizardnj wrote:

Mine is here since Friday.

Brought it to work today to play with it some(I hope).

You have a Commodore computer setup at your work? That sir is pretty darn cool IMHO. You should definitely play with your Flyer today. It's a moral imperative Smile

Great news wizardnj Party

You may wish too tap into your Commodore 64.
load"http:cbm8bit.com/c64/loderunner.prg",7 during your lunch break.

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wizardnj · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject:

Will try that today. Maybe before lunch Wink

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maraud · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject:

Anxiously awaiting the arrival of mine. Surprised

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c64web · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:05 am Post subject:

Had a what if moment that may or may not be possible. Picture this.
What if you created a board that pressed down on the exposed connectors on the wiznet board that included a short ribbon cable too the cartridge port! could the wiznet board allow you too use the Flyer as a Ethernet card. ?

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daytona400f · Newbie Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Sacramento

I'm very happy whenever I see new c64 hardware show up!! It looks very well made, and I love the LCD feature.

It was described earlier in the thread as a "Modem".

Is there documentation on how to use this Modem feature? Which BBS's can I connect to, and how? Can I use CCGMS, or run an Ivory/Color 64 BBS on this? Does it support Hayes AT-Commands?

thanks!

stivenyfc · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject:

Can this act like a 1541, as in playing multi-load and multi-disk games?

Thanks,
Steve

analogkid · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:06 am Post subject:

c64web wrote:

Had a what if moment that may or may not be possible. Picture this.
What if you created a board that pressed down on the exposed connectors on the wiznet board that included a short ribbon cable too the cartridge port! could the wiznet board allow you too use the Flyer as a Ethernet card. ?

Shane.

Theoretically possible, and an interesting idea Smile

Additional glue logic would be required to map the wiznet registers into the address space of the machine if connected via the cartridge port.

daytona400f wrote:

I'm very happy whenever I see new c64 hardware show up!! It looks very well made, and I love the LCD feature.

It was described earlier in the thread as a "Modem".

Is there documentation on how to use this Modem feature? Which BBS's can I connect to, and how? Can I use CCGMS, or run an Ivory/Color 64 BBS on this? Does it support Hayes AT-Commands?

Thanks! The term modem is being used loosely in this case, as in cable/dsl modem, etc. Communication with the Flyer is via the IEC port exclusively, and not compatible with any standard C= modems.

That said, I was able to write a *very* simple telnet client a couple months back while testing the TCP: protocol on the Flyer. It was a fairly short BASIC program and took about an hour to write (and ran on any Commodore machine). I'll definitely be focusing on providing some of these core applications for Flyer in the coming months (the telnet client is not releasable in it's current state).

stivenyfc wrote:

Can this act like a 1541, as in playing multi-load and multi-disk games?

Absolutely. And you can use the button and LCD on the Flyer to choose/switch disks while you're playing a game.

Also, while fairly complete, it is obviously not a 100% emulation of a 1541 (fastloaders won't work for example).

Brandon

wizardnj · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject:

c64web wrote:

Had a what if moment that may or may not be possible. Picture this.
What if you created a board that pressed down on the exposed connectors on the wiznet board that included a short ribbon cable too the cartridge port! could the wiznet board allow you too use the Flyer as a Ethernet card. ?

Shane.

Darnit that's the same idea I had what if a cable add-on was created to allow flyer to run carts.

Great idea I think if possible.
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stivenyfc · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:23 pm Post subject:

Quote:

stivenyfc wrote:
Can this act like a 1541, as in playing multi-load and multi-disk games?

Absolutely. And you can use the button and LCD on the Flyer to choose/switch disks while you're playing a game.

Also, while fairly complete, it is obviously not a 100% emulation of a 1541 (fastloaders won't work for example).

Brandon

As far as fastloaders, do you mean a Fast Load cart in the cartridge port or d64s that have fastloaders programmed into them?

Thanks,
Steve

analogkid · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:36 pm Post subject:

stivenyfc wrote:

As far as fastloaders, do you mean a Fast Load cart in the cartridge port or d64s that have fastloaders programmed into them?

Thanks,
Steve

Generally speaking, both. Although some products like JiffyDOS obviously fall back gracefully after detecting the drive does not contain/support the faster protocol (and work fine with the Flyer at standard 1541 speed).

I hope to start working on JiffyDOS support in a week or so. Long term, I'd like to support a small handful of some of the more common fastloaders (as sd2iec does).

Brandon

c64web · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:36 am Post subject:

Quote:

I hope to start working on JiffyDOS support in a week or so. Long term, I'd like to support a small handful of some of the more common fastloaders (as sd2iec does).

Brandon

Great news keep up the good work look forward too fastloader support such as JiffyDos.

I have been using my Flyer as my sole mass storage unit for the past week with good
results very happy with my purchase.

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maraud · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject:

Mine arrived safely on Friday. Unfortunately I've got to go on a business trip so I won't get to crank her up until next week sometime. Sad

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c64web · Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject:

Updated the firmware 1.1.3 as usual the display was informative with whats happening and after rebooting automatically it's done. maybe 40 seconds. Mate everything should be that easy.

Downloaded another disk image from off the cloud and found it to be significant faster. I am not sure what the last process is but it was almost instant instead of hanging for a number of seconds, as it did on the previous firmware. I think this was when it's doing something with the flash memory, This alone makes updating too v1.1.3 worthwhile.

Great news DHCP is working on my network Smile

I changed all the network settings to setting that would not work on my network using the builtin config program, then turned the flyer off and back on and DHCP discovered my network settings. Smile

I will just leave DHCP on for a while see how it continues too function.

I have been using the FLYER on the Commodore 128 lately with jiffydos enables and found no problems, not that i thought there would as it's a proper IEC device and not a cartridge.

I know this will be a non critical update to the FLYER! but do you think you may fix the FLYER too boot from a d71 image with CPM on it. It's pie in the sky stuff but i don't think anything does this bar a real 1571 drive on a Commodore 128.

Firmware 1.1.3 Thumbs Up

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eslapion · Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject:

That thing seems neat... use your PC as a storage through ethernet.

Its the only modern device I know of that offers an IEEE port for PETs and other Commodore business computers.
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sidvicious · Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject:

http://bitfixer.com/PETdisk

http://www.vintage-computer.co...4041/page3

http://home.germany.net/nils.eilers/petsd/
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c64web · Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject:

sidvicious wrote:

http://bitfixer.com/PETdisk
http://www.vintage-computer.co...4041/page3
http://home.germany.net/nils.eilers/petsd/

Three nice projects for sure.

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geekwithsocialskills · Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject:

c64web wrote:

Updated the firmware 1.1.3 as usual the display was informative with whats happening and after rebooting automatically it's done. maybe 40 seconds. Mate everything should be that easy.

Once the firmware is updated, at the READY prompt on your Commodore computer, if you type LIST then press RETURN it will show you what was updated in the latest firmware that you just updated your Flyer with.

The 1.1.3 firmware increased internet transfers by 30% and also added a nice disk manager program as well.

To access the disk manager program type LOAD"1:DISKMGR",8 (or whatever your device number is set to), then RUN it once loaded.

eslapion · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:48 am Post subject:

c64web wrote:

sidvicious wrote:

http://bitfixer.com/PETdisk
http://www.vintage-computer.co...4041/page3
http://home.germany.net/nils.eilers/petsd/

Three nice projects for sure.

Shane.

Same thing here.

The PET SD is the one that attracts my attention the most. It seems to more or less emulate SFD-1001 drives by supporting its image format.
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geekwithsocialskills · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:20 am Post subject:

eslapion wrote:

The PET SD is the one that attracts my attention the most. It seems to more or less emulate SFD-1001 drives by supporting its image format.

I've discussed SFD-1001 support for Flyer with Brandon recently, so it's possible we'll see it in a future firmware update. *crosses fingers* Smile