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All original programming and graphics by Shaun "Sout" Southern. Optimisation and conversion to the C64 by yours truly. The intro soundtrack is called "Pyramorphix" and i'm still really smug about the scrolls over logos even if it's not all that difficult. =-) -T.M.R

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=52131

Excellent, good fun and nice work Cosine!
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very nice port across, about time. i had this before the C64 version which incidentally KS2 was my first C64 game purchase.

not a criticism at all, but i'm pretty much certain the stormy clouds went from white to dark grey on the C16, but that's the only minor change i've noticed.

all except for the lack of a competitive 2-player mode, i always considered the C16 version to be the more enjoyable game imho.

2 thumbs up

as better versions go, how about BMX Racers & Tom Thumb next?
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Nice.
How about Gullwing Falcon or Big Mac.
Gullwing Falcon is an excellent shooter only available for C16/+4 and the C16 version of Big Mac is way better than the already existing C64 version.

not just Big Mac, but it's excellent sequel Mr Puniverse (big mac 2) also unavailable on any other machine. had me hooked for many months
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Most excellent! The only differences I can see are the storm clouds as was said already, and the audio obviously being new! Other than that, perfect! (I miss the C16 music though, bad as it was, and the sound effects!)

An option to choose emulated TED music would been the bonus killer.

What about "Tutti Frutti" on the C64?
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Mr Puniverse was always an odd one...the original game has a C64 and C16 version, so why release the sequel on C16 only? Maybe the C64 version of Big Mac just wasn't very good? I can't remember, I've played the C16 one more.

It's interesting though that apart from the clouds, the colours for Kikstart are spot-on...it was never graphically impressive, but I wonder if there was a reason it was so basic? Was it programmed on a C64 first, then ported?

EDIT: On this point:

http://www.lemon64.com/games/details.php?ID=2786

Just for completeness. (Also the programmer of this was Tony Kelly, who also programmed Big Mac on the C64 and, judging by the big letters "T K" on the screenshot above, on the C16 as well)

The only game I remember playing on the c16 is Atlantis although I can't really see why I'd be bothered

not the best choice of game to be introduced to the C16

i never understood why Mr Puniverse was never released on the C64. but perhaps the reason is because TK was more successful programming a better C16 version of Big Mac and was more easily able to produce a sequel from the same code, maybe he tried and failed with a playable C64 version, i'm not sure.

i remember feeling amazingly disappointed with C64 Big Mac, and especially C64 Tom Thumb by Udo Gertz (great C16 coder but not-so on the C64). i always imagined they would be better games until i finally played them, as well as others. lol i'd be interested to see these games ported across and see how they fair.
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Great stuff!

Although it can't compete with II, I actually prefer this to C64's version of Kikstart; although basic, I find it more playbale and fun for some reason.
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@baz

contact http://www.cosine.org.uk/ and tell them about the game you want to be converted to the c64....

Just remembered that the C16 version of Squirm also is better than the C64 version.
Also one of the really good C16 games around.

i've tried contacting cosine, but there seems to be no email link or forum to put forward any suggestions

the main 3 games has to be Mr Puniverse (Big Mac 2), BMX Racers and Tom Thumb.

but then there's those others which the C64 has also missed out on
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ok thanks, i've emailed the cosine team with my suggestions

Gurt. the C64 needs Tom Thumb16, and the C64 version of BMX Racers was also terrible
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I always preferred the c16 version of Trailblazer as well. I think the c16 was Sean Southern's native platform at the time, and he branched to the c64 and beyond.

I used to love Mr Puniverse and Finders Keepers, the c16 version of FK is my favourite. For those other MrP lovers, you may be interested in this... http://www.gb64.com/game.php?i...18&h=0

first of 2 posts this morning. firstly i emailed tmr the coder with Cosine. if he doesn't mind me sharing this info this is what he partly had to say in his reply. he quotes me with a ">". i emailed him back afterwards and thanked him for taking time to reply. he also wasn't aware of this thread but i won't mention why

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i'm sorry, although i am looking at doing more C16 ports i don't make announcements about anything until i'm close to release and i *won't* be taking requests; the process of converting any of these games is *much* more complex than many people realise; just because the two machines share screen resolutions and so forth it doesn't follow that converting C16 to C64 is easy because the C16 has over 50% more CPU power and that has to be allowed for, code optimised where it wasn't previously needed and hardware sprites brought in where there's no other option. Any decisions i make on future titles to work on will be based on their visual impact, general viability (since some simply *aren't* possible without making major modifications or at least concessions) and my own personal interest in them. > have you considered anymore C64 to C16 game projects. Not really, no. i have considered some original Plus/4 titles, but there is nothing on the go right now and i don't talk about *anything* i'm working on until well past the 75-80% completion mark.

can't say fairer than that
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ok 2nd reply.

Stinky wrote:

or those other MrP lovers, you may be interested in this... http://www.gb64.com/game.php?i...18&h=0

that is an excellent find. so Mr Puniverse is already available on the C64, in some form. it's a great clone and not even a port across. different level designs and music. the graphics are very close. i like the newly added option of picking a screen to start on and setting the speed. apart from that and other minor added creatures, it's the same playable game

Trailblazer was excellent, although it lacks the simultaneous 2-player mode but i suppose it was meant as a full screen game. incidentally i know where you're getting at with it being Shaun Southern's native platform at the time. Trailblazer was first written for the C16 and then converted across to the C64 and other formats afterwards as i read in Commodore User. he was one of the best coders on the C16 scene.

i'm not sure about Finders Keepers, it was very good but i think it may of been a smaller game on the C16. fun nonetheless.

again, thanks for finding Big Mad (Mr Puniverse clone)
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