The very first crack.

Bones · C64 Enthusiast Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 813

Here's an interesting question ..
I wonder what the very first C64 crack was , by that I mean complete with intro (or at least a credit)

The first crack I saw was by TMC (The mercenary cracker) I think. that was 198x

Whats the earliest crack you guys know of ..
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Fröhn · Grandmaster of C64 Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 1950

cracks with intro: perhaps antirom, section 8 or gcs. without intro: anything early which was released in 82 and has some copyright message changed.

mlonnqvist · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject:

Tough question. 1701 were early, but their first intro were just a parody on GCS (German Cracking Services). GCS OTOH didnt use scrollers, just three sprites (G+C+S) and some text.

Before them you had people like 1103, but he never used any intros, more like 1103 replacing some text in the game.

So, basically I cant really answer your question, sorry.
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Matt · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject:

moving this topic to the scene forum.
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iopop · Newbie Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 26

Have quite bad knowledge about the really early "scene" in general. However, the earliest crack from Mr.Z I've found is Daley Thompson's Decathlon released november 84. But this one does not have the classic intro, he started using that one in early 1985.

Fungus · Groupie in Training Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 112

I beleive Plutonium Crackers had the first crack with a real intro.

as for first crack... I seen just about every game ever made branded with initials at least... like the old cartridges... cracked by the bandit etc...
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Matt · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:

rally speedway, 'broken' by jolly roger, in 1984. yeah, 'broken by' that's what they called it back then, instead of 'cracked by'. Cool

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Tokafondo · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject:

Matt wrote:

rally speedway, 'broken' by jolly roger, in 1984. yeah, 'broken by' that's what they called it back then, instead of 'cracked by'. Cool

They 'broke' protections those years...

Bones · C64 Enthusiast Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 813

Matt wrote:

rally speedway, 'broken' by jolly roger, in 1984. yeah, 'broken by' that's what they called it back then, instead of 'cracked by'. Cool

So far it looks like 1984 is the earliest we can prove..
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TNT · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject:

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bacon · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:30 am Post subject:

mlonnqvist wrote:

Before them you had people like 1103, but he never used any intros, more like 1103 replacing some text in the game.

1103! That's it! I've been trying for years to remember what number was written along the sides of the field in the copy of Cup Final (International Soccer) I had in 1984. That was the first time I saw a cracker change anything inside a game to get credit.

Anyone has a copy of that version? I'd love to have it just for nostalgia's sake.
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mlonnqvist · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject:

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Anyone has a copy of that version? I'd love to have it just for nostalgia's sake.

ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64/Scene/Old/i/

(look for International Soccer.1103.zip)

And I think most people who had a copy of that game had the 1103 version. I know I did, and all my friends did.
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NorthWay · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject:

mlonnqvist wrote:

And I think most people who had a copy of that game had the 1103 version. I know I did, and all my friends did.

1103 was ace.
The Donkey Kong crack must be the most famous of them all. In fact, was there any other version of DK than his(?)?

Mason · Master of C64 Joined: 28 Dec 2001 Posts: 1148

Yeah theres more cracks of Donkey Kong than the one 1103 did - but its usual net version.

TWR · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:

NorthWay wrote:

In fact, was there any other version of DK than his(?)?

Yes, the trainer version from DSE...
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hokutoforce · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: 1st crack w/intro

Fungus wrote:

I beleive Plutonium Crackers had the first crack with a real intro.

PC was a group of the 84's infact.
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jerrykurtz · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject:

Bones wrote:

Matt wrote:

rally speedway, 'broken' by jolly roger, in 1984. yeah, 'broken by' that's what they called it back then, instead of 'cracked by'. Cool

So far it looks like 1984 is the earliest we can prove..

As a "breaker" myself, I'm sure I did stuff in 84 or before -- it will just take me some time to remember some titles.

Lets not forget that there were cartridge based games that needed cracked to disk so that they could be copied, plus quite a few early publishers that were using protection.

It was common practice to put something like (B) 19XX by C.O.P.S. (or whatever your group name was). But towards the end, I preferred nice clean cracks with no evidence of tampering.

By my senior year in high school (86/87), I was an accomplished cracker. 83/84 would have been my 9th grade year, and I'm pretty sure I had several cracks to my name by then. While all of our friends were playing games, my brother and I were busy peeking at the code.

Some of the games I remember working on:

1984: Jumpman, Attack of the Phantom Karate Devils
1983: Axis Assassin, Shamus, Zaxxon, Zeppelin, Choplifter, Blue Max, Pharaoh's Curse
1982: Fort Apocalypse, Serpentine

Those are some that I remember, but I guess I can't really say exactly which year these fell in. Heck, some of those titles may not have actually even needed breaking ?
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Bones · C64 Enthusiast Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 813

jerrykurtz wrote:

Bones wrote:

Matt wrote:

rally speedway, 'broken' by jolly roger, in 1984. yeah, 'broken by' that's what they called it back then, instead of 'cracked by'. Cool

So far it looks like 1984 is the earliest we can prove..

As a "breaker" myself, I'm sure I did stuff in 84 or before -- it will just take me some time to remember some titles.

Lets not forget that there were cartridge based games that needed cracked to disk so that they could be copied, plus quite a few early publishers that were using protection.

It was common practice to put something like (B) 19XX by C.O.P.S. (or whatever your group name was). But towards the end, I preferred nice clean cracks with no evidence of tampering.

By my senior year in high school (86/87), I was an accomplished cracker. 83/84 would have been my 9th grade year, and I'm pretty sure I had several cracks to my name by then. While all of our friends were playing games, my brother and I were busy peeking at the code.

Some of the games I remember working on:

1984: Jumpman, Attack of the Phantom Karate Devils
1983: Axis Assassin, Shamus, Zaxxon, Zeppelin, Choplifter, Blue Max, Pharaoh's Curse
1982: Fort Apocalypse, Serpentine

Those are some that I remember, but I guess I can't really say exactly which year these fell in. Heck, some of those titles may not have actually even needed breaking ?

we need something with a date on it to make it official
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Fröhn · Grandmaster of C64 Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 1950

You won't get something with a date. 99% of the old cracks have no date written in it, so even if you find one with a date you will not find out which one was the first crack with that.

www.c64hq.com · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:42 am Post subject:

Nice topic!

Megabyte, Section 8, 1103 of Jedi and AntiRom were all early. WASP (We Against Software Protection), Swedish Cracking Crew and 1701 were really early too. Not sure about 1701, but I think I have cracks from WASP and SCC done in 1983.

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Soldier One · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:13 am Post subject:

www.c64hq.com wrote:

Nice topic!

Megabyte, Section 8, 1103 of Jedi and AntiRom were all early. WASP (We Against Software Protection), Swedish Cracking Crew and 1701 were really early too. Not sure about 1701, but I think I have cracks from WASP and SCC done in 1983.

Morpheus/Flash Inc.

I have always thought that the cracker group WASP was namned after the great heavy metal band with the same namne. They released their first singel “Fxxk like a beast” and made themself a name to the big public in summer of 1984.

I could ofcourse be wrong about the cracker group, I know I am right about the music group.

The Dark Judge · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:15 am Post subject:

WASP = "we against software protection", so I doubt they are named after that group. But maybe they were White Anglo-Saxon Protestants instead? Wink

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Soldier One · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:26 am Post subject:

The Dark Judge wrote:

WASP = "we against software protection", so I doubt they are named after that group. But maybe they were White Anglo-Saxon Protestants instead? Wink

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What I was trying to say was that I suspected that they took the name WASP from the metal group and gave the abbrevation a differnt meaning more fitting to their cracking activity.

OT: According to Blackie Lawless, leadsinger in WASP, it doesnt mean anything. He just wanted people to speculatate in the meaning of the abbrevation as a publicity stunt.

mlonnqvist · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:00 am Post subject:

www.c64hq.com wrote:

Nice topic!

Megabyte, Section 8, 1103 of Jedi and AntiRom were all early. WASP (We Against Software Protection), Swedish Cracking Crew and 1701 were really early too. Not sure about 1701, but I think I have cracks from WASP and SCC done in 1983.

Morpheus/Flash Inc.

Actually, I think the earliest Swedish group was 1701, and computerbrains was really early too. WASP I have vague memory of their first cracks being from 1985, but I might simply have missed some early work.

As for SCC, I have actually never seen any crack from them, which always made me wonder about their name (but I did see several of their demos)
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icon · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject:

mlonnqvist wrote:

www.c64hq.com wrote:

Nice topic!

Megabyte, Section 8, 1103 of Jedi and AntiRom were all early. WASP (We Against Software Protection), Swedish Cracking Crew and 1701 were really early too. Not sure about 1701, but I think I have cracks from WASP and SCC done in 1983.

Morpheus/Flash Inc.

Actually, I think the earliest Swedish group was 1701, and computerbrains was really early too. WASP I have vague memory of their first cracks being from 1985, but I might simply have missed some early work.

As for SCC, I have actually never seen any crack from them, which always made me wonder about their name (but I did see several of their demos)

I remember SCC "crack" of "Avenger". They freezed it and put an intro on it. lame, lame, lame. ... They should had sticked to what they where good at. Making demos and talk shit about Triad and WCC... Smile

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