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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:02 pm    Post subject: lemon games compo round 9 - GHOULS 'N GHOSTS Reply with quote

wahey!

howdy and welcome to round 9 of the lemon games competition, edition 2004!
this month we play
GHOULS 'N GHOSTS




RULES:
Arrow games compo starts now and will end Sunday the 3rd of october, 24h00 PM
Arrow the aim of the game is to score as much points as possible.
Arrow post screenshots with your highest score in this thread.
Arrow don't cheat! - we know where you live!!! Cool
Arrow grab your copy of GHOULS 'N GHOSTS here. it's the HOKUTO FORCE version.

EXTRAS:
Arrow if ya have the balls, check out The Scorelord pages!

REVIEW
Arrow learn more about GHOULS 'N GHOSTS here.

INSTRUCTIONS
Arrow help Arthur in his quest to rescue princess Hus!

QUESTIONS:
Arrow please check the Lemon Games Compo FAQ.

STANDINGS:
Arrow here you go! about time for another update I know Cool




have fun!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

er, you're linking to a SPACE TAXI download.

I think you mean here
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, now I have an excuse to try this out.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

qazi wrote:
er, you're linking to a SPACE TAXI download.

I think you mean here
yup, thaks mate Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And change the thread title! It's round 9!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And change the thread title! It's round 9!
yes mylord Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



It's a start...got to stage 2 after dying billions of times...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first lame attempt:

19750
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me, or is this a VERY BAD game?!

Poor collision detection, floating above the ground so you have to crouch to kill things, and then you can't turn around whilst crouching.

Frustrating beyond belief.

I may post a score one day, but didn't enjoy those first few attempts at breaking the 10K barrier (9500 ish only!).

Ah well. There's always next month. Action Biker or Manic Miner anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, my thoughts almost exactly.. Though I'll try to persevere.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed: these controls are incredibly frustrating. Here's an intersting little fact: the latest version of WinVICE has a little thing that tells you what switches are being operated on the "joystick"...handy for when you want to confirm that, for example, you can't turn whilst ducked. Evil or Very Mad

EDIT: don't you just love it when they spawn under your feet? Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blood, vampirism & sadism. 21700



Edit: with Onslaught version


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geenius wrote:
Is it just me, or is this a VERY BAD game?!


No, it is just another "favourite" game! Wink
Just a few more months and we will be through Hawkey, Pooyan and the sort as well and start to get into the really interesting games, hehe. But maybe we will have changed the compo by then so that we can play our favourite games over and over again!!!! \o/


Hm, Ghouls n Ghosts is much better than the dreaded Ghosts n Goblins! I think i reached the 4th level back in the days. Let's see if i can finish it this time around.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the more I play Ghouls 'n Ghosts, the more I prefer Ghosts 'n Goblins.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely NOT an easy game: 37'950



@merman: hey, it seems we died in the same point Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:29 pm    Post subject: Told you we should have played Trailblazer, but Nooooooo.... Reply with quote

Right, well so far I've had 3 or so tries and this is what I came up with:



27,850

Okay, now I've played this game a fair bit, gotten very close to completing it at one stage. Here are some answers from one who knows (says he, ever so modest):

Geenius wrote:
Is it just me, or is this a VERY BAD game?!

Collision detection is usually excessively sensitive, but the same goes for your weaponry, so it evens out in the end. As for turning and crouching, well, you can't in the arcade either and this is an arcade conversion afterall.

@Qazi: The controls for Iridis alpha are pretty horrible too in parts, but you never mention that..

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EDIT: don't you just love it when they spawn under your feet? Evil or Very Mad

It's not that bad. just crouch and shoot. Instead of complaining, feel it out. It's a bit weird at first but where there are problems there are compensations.

Apollyon wrote:
No, it is just another "favourite" game!

I agree. But perhaps more to the point is that it is not at all suited for competition, something that I seem to remember hearing from somewhere. Now we are all going to get stuck on level three, or if you are very lucky level 5 (level 4 is possible, but level 5 is plain impossible, even with the cheat you run out of time before halfway through).

Look, just give it a go. I don't want to play this game in competition, because it will come down to the amount of whoring on the first couple of levels in the end, but these are the breaks, and we may as well enjoy playing a very cool game indeed.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Told you we should have played Trailblazer, but Nooooooo Reply with quote

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@Qazi: The controls for Iridis alpha are pretty horrible too in parts, but you never mention that.


Do you want a pogo-stick to assist you in jumping to conclusions? I never mention that because I don't believe it's true, not because I avoid the issue.
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I never mention that because I don't believe it's true, not because I avoid the issue.

I believe it's true (IA has control problems), just as you believe that GnG has problems to be true. You know, different views and all that sort of thing?

You seem rather quick to complain about this game, I just felt this a bit amusing as you always moan when people complain about stuff that you like.

EDIT: changed my tone a bit.
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qazi wrote:
I never mention that because I don't believe it's true, not because I avoid the issue.

I believe it's true (IA has control problems), just as you believe that GnG has problems to be true. You know, different views and all that sort of thing?


Okay.

The Dark Prince wrote:

You seem rather quick to complain about this game,


http://www.lemon64.com/games/v...er_ID=1909

The Dark Prince wrote:
I just felt this a bit amusing as you always moan when people complain about stuff that you like.


A lot of good points made in a mature way. I love the game, it's just that I hadn't played G 'n' G in ages and it's taking a while to get used to the awkward controls and enemies spawning under the feet and everything.

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I may need a pogo stick, but at least it isn't sticking out of my arse.


I take back my comment about you making points in a mature way.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah, I'm going to get stuck in the basement again with this one. Very Happy

Current high 10,500

Screenshot to follow soon.
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NYCeguy24 wrote:
Bah, I'm going to get stuck in the basement again with this one. Very Happy


You won't be alone much longer. I'll be with you soon Very Happy Never tried this game before. Hope to post a score > 10K before the end of the competition.

Saludos Cool
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Kusarigama wrote:
Definitely NOT an easy game: 37'950
@merman: hey, it seems we died in the same point Wink


But you have twice the score. Seems like it's point-whoring time... Wink
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No, no point whoring, this is not the kind of game I like to waste time in. I think it's due above all to the 5000 points bouns for killing the level bosses, as well as the use of my last three lives repeating the third level killing always the same foes...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if this score is usable since it was gained with a bug (but it is *very* likely that Kurisagama and Lasse did the same thing)



56,500

Errm, we might have some issues this competition. I forgot that there is a rather strange bug at the end of the second level boss. If you get up to him and continually shoot his fireballs that he drops (around 15 times I think it is), you will get a huge increase in score. On my version at home, it is possible to hit 1 million points this way (and you get an awful lot of lives to go with it too). I am not sure how or why this works, but it does on most versions.

Secondly, the version we're using seems to have a lot of oddities which I d on't recall occurring on the original. Sometimes when you get hit and die it gives you an extra life for example, I have not been able to figure out what score gives you an extra life, but it must be around the 20,000 mark.

Right, now that I've said that, here is one useful piece of advice - a lot of you will probably have trouble getting past the second last Guillotine before the restart point on the first level, here's how you do it: Run past it and hold left until it falls down (it will just miss you), then while it is down just up to the next platform.

I will do some screenshots of how to get through the third level in a little bit, but I'm tired and hungry for the moment.

EDIT: Just saw Kuri's post. By the way, you couldn't possible have gotten that many points that way, the most points you can earn per life (in hte time limit) is around 7000.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odd. Mabye we should find a bugless version and restart the compo.
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