I wouldnt mind playing Nebulus at all. So far i have never gotten further than the start of the third tower and the competition would motivate me to try hard. Also, can anything be worse than 3 weeks of playing Arkanoid with keyboard? I guess not.

AFAIK, one of the troubles with Nebulus is that you get a bonus life every 5,000 points. You get points mainly by climbing higher. When you reach the 4th or 5th tower, being them high enough, it is possible that you go up until nearly reaching the top, but then don't make it. That way you gain a life and boost up your score, and you can go points whoring endlessly, without any increasing difficulty.
I did that by chance when genuinely trying to beat tower 5, and just missing every time.
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I may be wrong on that, I'll have to check it.
It's not a big problem, if people behave honestly and don't avoid to beat a tower on purpose, but I'm sure I got far more points losing some lives in tower 5 and then reaching tower 6 with one of the last ones, than, when I got more experience, by going straight to tower 6.
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Or how about the lowest score to complete the game... That would be interesting indeed.
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If we'll take the decision to do not allows Nebulus for the compo, with should also start the votation again from the scratch.
Otherwise everyone will change is own votes causing only confusion. What do you think Ilija, fellows?

Yeah Thunderer, I think I have to agree with qazi. I know your intentions are good, but if people are allowed to change their votes, the thread will become chaos. And I say this even though I agree with you on the Nebulus matter.
What does Matt have to say about this?

OK, I agree with you all. This was only a futile attempt to save another month of complaining.

So, now let's hope that somene else will vote for games in the top five other than Nebulus.

Well, why did you vote for Nebulus, Roberto? Seriously, you've surely read what shteev had to say and they are damned good reasons not to vote for it...

Anyway, isn't this a sign that the voting system is in dire need of change? If we have to play nebulus, so be it, but look forwards to endless points whoring and meaningless competition. As it was, I never played arkanoid to complete it, only to score points which really changes the way you play the game, and I think the same will apply to nebulus.
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*sniff* you touched my heart with that post, Matt.
Well said.

Agreed.
I have a simple rule. Whatever is the game chosen, I play it. If I don't like it, I can give up, but not without giving it at least one try.
So, I don't really mind what voting system we use. I just want to keep having fun.
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Matt, you have also all of my support.

I have also to to say, that the main thing here is trying to have more fun possible more people possible.
It is right imo to point out that a game would not be suited for a compo in the pre-voting and voting phase, as it is a means to try and have maximum fun in the compo.
But then, whichever voting system we have, if people decide to vote for that game anyway there's no way we can stop them, and rightly so. Unless Matt rules out the game for some specified reason.

Let's be constructive, let's complain as few as possible, let's try and have some fun.

Let's vote for Hawkeye
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Erk, sorry if I sounded hostile, on re-reading my post I sound like a real bastard, so truly sorry about that. Believe me, it was the last thing on my mind, particularly towards a person who has yet to be negative in any way at all on here. I didn't mean to be aggressive towards you in any way. How could I be? After all, your signatures always manage to amuse me

I phrased my question badly, very badly in fact. It's just that you seemed pretty strong on the idea of Nebulus having read objections to it (well I assumed you had, so sorry again) and I was wondering why you still voted, more out of curiousity than anything else.

By the way, I love nebulus. It's a game I've spent many many hours on, but I had a crack at it earlier today, and it does seem that you can loop with the trick shteev mentioned ad infinitum.

I can just see my first entry being some ludicrous score with the caption, "I had about 5 hours to spare, so I looped on tower five".

@Matt, how about doing a vote for the hannibal system, so far there are only a few people vocal about it all, it's really hard to tell who is complaining and who isn't. I admit I complained a lot about Arkanoid, so perhaps my view is not really relevant though..
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being inspired by someone's decision is not a sin, innit? I also vote already when I saw a game that's been voted for and I thought, hey yes, good decision, I support that.....

The voting-system is allright IMHO. It's o.k. when you vote once and afterwoods there's no changing of the votes. And remember, you have only 5 votes, the more people vote the less you can change it in another direction.

Roberto, what do you mean with perfeft?
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Hey Firefox, what you say is true, but it also means the first to vote are the ones most likely to push their titles through, I actually waited for this topic to come up so I could push for Trailblazer as hard as I could (and I nearly did too), but to tell you the truth, I would happily play any other game mentioned (with a certain exception ).
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