I downloaded J.Kimmel collection, but it looks as if the music demo wont decrunch. STOP!! The reason for this is because the group, who has written the demo has used - +H Emu Fuxx0r V2.0 -. I guess what I should do is convert it to a proper C64. Can't do it at the moment, coz I'm going to be extremely busy.
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Every Fuxx0r-Production should be banned & ignored!

If a Demo/Prod does not work on Emus coz it uses too advanced coding, no problem, accepted, blame the Emu!
But Fuxx0ring should just be banned...how about creating an AAEF(Association against EmuFuxxor)? ;-)
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Emufuxxor is just plain lame.

The only positive thing it's a challenge for emu coders to make their emu recognize it as real 64.

How about building a new 'scene': Demomakers starting to EmuFuxxor all their demos using known and (yet still) unknown tweaks. On the other side we have the crackers which 'release' the Demo for Emulators... :twisted:
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a) I'm not sure about if Ian & Mic = Reptilia Design is wrong. There were more inside that group, werent there? Also is it Design or Designs?

b) Jack, was Thorn Sören or Jim?

Please forgive my ignorance chaps, but what is a "fuxxor"? (or whatever)
I'm intrigued!

OK I read the topic properly and now realise-- but how does a "fuxx0r"(or whatever) work? surely it can be tricked (or Buggered) in any new release of Vice, CCS64 etc?

Regards....

I don't like that kind of utility. Even if I can tranfer with my cable all the warez on the original floppies I think Emu Fuxxor is a totally waste of time. Also don't give the opportunity to all the sceners without an original C64 to watch any releases is a real sadness !!!

The Overkiller / Hokuto Force

Lasse also mentioned that emulators didn't emulate the Character rom mirroring in the first $0000-$4000 graphic bank. In this bank you can't use gfx at $1000-$2000 as there are charsd. Now Imagine you will make sprite collision detection with gfx in this area.

If there is empty memory, emulator will display no graphics and the detection won't appear.

If there is empty memory on real machine there is collision anyway as GFX of char rom is mirroring there.

Anyway, maybe this bug is already corrected in emulators. I don't know.

roman
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The last I checked, CCS64 displays most of the char-rom mirror, it just doesn't draw the first 8 chars @ABCDEFG. This is probably an optimization in the screen-draw routine. (draw whole character rows only from one memory bank)

Hi.

Here are some infos how you can run prgs on VICE-1.8 that are
protected with the emufuxxorV2 (like this Jeroen Kimmel music collection).

Change the following settings in VICE-1.8:
Refresh rate: 1/1
Enable reSID
Enable true drive emulation

LOAD"protected prg",8 but don't run it.

Enter VICE monitor and type
break 0ccf
x

RUN
The monitor will stop at the breakpoint. Now type
r A=C0
delete 1
break 0d0f
x

At the next break type
r A=C0
delete 2
x

You're in.

For prg protected by emufuxx0rV1 you need differnet breakpoints and register
patches:
break 0c21, r A = C0
break 0e0d, r A = 88

Bye,
- Andreas

Hi Andreas,

I plan to write an article on the next issue of Scene World mag about the Emu Foxx0r. I'd like to put your little program so I'm asking your permission. You'll be metioned of course.

Regardz
The Overkiller / Hokuto Force

Well, I have no problem with distribution of the info. That's why I posted it here. But I won't call it a "program". A program would be a "defuxx0r" that extracts the original prg from a protected one.

- Andreas

PS.
If you like I can offer some informations how the fuxx0r works (although if you are in contact with the author, he may explain _a lot_ better).

PPS. You can easily write programs that won't run anymore even on a real C64 after they were fuxx0red.

Hi Andreas,

every kinds of infos are welcomed , thanx a bunch!!!

The Overkiller / Hokuto Force
hokutoforce@telemail.it
http://users.telemail.it/hokutoforce

Interesting.