Anyone ever manage to complete this legitmately? Me, of course I could get nowhere near, but still loved exploring the game going from one crazy room to another.
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I had it but I never completed it. I think I only played it once and decided I didn't like it. Might give it another try.

The original Jet Set Willy had fatal bugs in it thus making it impossible to beat.

However lately there has been bug-fixes which has now made it possible.

http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26285

This is the version you should play now.
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Yep, I suggest checking out the fixed version in that link. It even has an ending, which the original C64 version didn't have! I'm the guy who added the ending to the game.

As for the original post: nope, I haven't completed JSW. Especially not the C64 version.

In my opinion, the major turn off in the 64 version is the "jumping off ropes" part, which is much harder than it should be. It's very easy on the Spectrum original. Then there are the stairs which are also a bit easier to pass by in the Speccy.

I've sometimes thought that a better quality porting of JSW on the C64 could be a pretty neat idea. Ropes would be easy, stairs would be easy, and naturally the ending would be coded in unlike the official C64 port. It'd be fun and that's why I'm considering it in the future.
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Great work so far chaps, but can't someone change "The Drive"? It is just ridiculously hard, especially from right to left. That damned duck thing by the egg is way too low/high and I'm convinced impossible to jump back over. It spoils the game because you just end up losing all of your lives here....

Three things still left to change and I'm convinced we'd have a playable and enjoyable version of JSW at last, whilst still remaining a challenge.....

1) Change "The Drive" as mentioned above, get rid of the lowest duck or alter its position so you can walk under it or jump over it. I am sure this screen is impossible from right to left when you look at the start position of that egg and lowest duck

2) Change "On The Roof". An earlier post mentioned the jump from left to right from the rope to the ledge. It is 99.9% impossible to judge that jump, maybe one time in a thousand you can do it. All that happens is you lose all of your lives at this soul destroying screen, if you are trying to complete the game unassisted. Rectify this please by making the ledge on the right closer to the rope .This is mainly caused by point 3) which I will explain below.

3) Willy actually jumps less distance jumping to the right than he does when he jumps to the left. Utterly ridiculous! Can you please do something to change this so his jumps are consistent regardless of direction.

See following youtube link for a demonstration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pBzRJZ4TNc

Please, if you can, do something about these 3 points and the game will be realistically do-able, without cheating and saving etc...


Regards

Chris Martin - petharmy@hotmail.com

I agree with all that, and I'm very tempted to fix those issues or even re-do the entire game. Re-doing the game would be coolest because you could use bitmap mode, and that way the graphics would be 1:1 identical to the Speccy original. I recall someone saying that the C64 version gfx are inferior to the original. They are certainly a bit different, due to no bitmap mode. I have even come up with a way of doing the 'blinking colors' in a software way, despite the C64 not having Speccy's built-in blinking colors feature! (I assume the Speccy does that blinking by hardware? My knowledge of Speccy hw is not very in-depth)

But at the moment, me and my fellows at Hokuto Force are working on a C64 game. I have vowen that that game won't fall to the list of GTW's. It will get most of my attention, until the playable preview at least.
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Due to Burger Mayhem being in a very good state (and due to me having too much free time, I guess! ), I have now done the requested fixes to Jet Set Willy!

It's all ready, the new trainer screen too. Now I'm just going to ask some scener friends of mine which CSDb page I should upload it to. The Hokuto Force page, or the earlier Jet Set Willy page.
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I decided now. I uploaded it to the JSW page.

Here, in other words. The file: Jet Set Willy - The Ultimate Fix.D64
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@jonttu: EXCELLENT! Just had a quick trip to that dreaded "on the roof" screen and finally(!) got over that damn chasm. The game is still hard as nails but at least from now on you don't have to rely on pure luck to make those jumps from the ropes. Congrats on a job well done and VIELEN DANK!


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you need the patience of a saint to get anywhere on JSW ,it had its bugs but like Manic Miner i still see it as a classic.
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Thanks Robotron 2084, and you're welcome!

Changing the bird position was easy, once I found where enemy positions are defined (not in the room data like I first thought).

Changing the jump length to the right was also surprisingly easy. The too short jump was caused by an incorrect CMP value.

However, changing the rope routine was something else. I had to be very creative in coming up with a solution. In the end I got an idea on how to do it, and it worked! Now JSW 64 should be 99 % close to the original Speccy experience in terms of playability! Enjoy, fans!
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Fantastic Job, mate, three thumbs up!
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To Jonttu

You sir are a genius, you deserve to be knighted. Finally, Jet Set Willy as it should have been. Difficult, but completeable and consistent jumps regardless of direction.

To Dansolo

This is how the game should have been written in the first place, it is not making it easier, it is making it realistically possible without relying on insane strokes of luck (near impossible rope jumps on the roof and near impossible duck jumps on the drive etc). It is still a challenge for those of us, like me, who like to complete games without infinite lives and screen saves etc. Relying on luck and losing all your lives in one stroke through no fault of your own was just wrong, heartbreaking and soul destroying. This is now no longer the case.

To Shahid whats his face

YOU SUCK!!!

That is some amazing "patching" though jonttu! I can see you getting a few more requests for other games that people want "fixed"!!

I have now completed this game without saving, changing the ingame speed or using infinite lives etc. Basically, without cheating

Eternal thanks to Dansolo and Jonttu for making this possible.

A game that has haunted and tantalised for years (due to inferioir programming and fatal bugs) has finally been put to bed....

A truly joyous moment to savour............

Thanks again guys

ps Don't quite know why there is now a rope in "The Bow" screen, but who cares!!!!

This will be something I'll be covering in my questions... so hopefully we can find out what happened with the conversion from the only person who is going to know... Shahid himself
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