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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Quick Data Drive, any good? Reply with quote

Title says it all, and if it came with its original OS wafer plus spare is it worth buying? Im curious and have the chance to part with some cash on one
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are limited in their use really. It is just a continuous cassette reel.

You can only save .PRG files you make yourself.

I have two of them, and keep them boxed now. I used them back in the day, to save some of my own programes on.

When I brought them from my mums loft last year, and tried the programmes, the reel snapped.

I had a taped copy of the database programme I made, but not the super ski session game I done.

Interesting bit of kit to have. You can daisy chain them through the cassette port, save from one 'wafer' to another etc.

It is sequencial in nature, like a cassette tape, but is a bit faster.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I brought them from my mums loft last year, and tried the programmes, the reel snapped.

What do you mean the reel? The tape snapped or some part of the housing?

I recall wanting to buy this drive back in the day, seeing their ads in the Commodore mags, because I only had a tape cassette drive and needed something less expensive than a 1541. Eventually I read more about them and saw their limitations. By the time 1989-1990 rolled in I just went ahead and bought a 1541-II and then a 1581 instead. Then later on also got two original 1541's for free (or for a bargain price I think). Definitely did not need a Quickdata Drive by then!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, food for thought there, but would i be able to load up a game, hit the action replay and save to QDD? Would that be possible?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a QDD. FSSL (remember them?) used to sell them, and sent me three replacement machines before I had a working one. There was a trick way you had to tap the wafers on the table before using them to settle the tape inside, otherwise the capstan would rip all of the tape out.

There was a hacky way to make them work with Action Replay, but I've long since forgotten how and it didn't work with the freezer part of the cart.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback guys, i think im going to abstain on this then, wont do what I need it to do (which is to basically Action Replay a game or two onto a wafer) so I'll pass on this for now
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Came very close too bidding on one of these.
If they were manufactured by Commodore, i would have acquired one by now for the hardware collection.
Does anyone actively use one. ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was the reel that snapped. I opened it up, but too much reel to find the break.

The AR thing, has brought back some kind of a memory that it did work, but I can't think of it either. might try if I have time some time.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was eyeing up these things last month and decided not to bother. Finding wafers is a bit hard and because they snap I thought whats the point!

Im happy with my 1541-II and a box or two of NOS floppies Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's the verdict.
Quick Data Drive, any good?

Only if Wafers could be sourced.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is more novelty value than anything else, although I did use them when I had them. It was easier than cassette tape.

Also price is a factor. What price can you buy one for?

The original box came with the QOS (Quick Operating System) and a spare Wafer.

If you are going to use .prg files, then it might be worth it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

c64web wrote:
Only if Wafers could be sourced.

That's the ticket. Old 5¼ floppies are more readily available than wafers. Someone would indeed have to manufacturer new ones or someone find "new old" inventory, although time can be a factor and make the wafer parts including the tape a little more brittle. Really depends on original quality design. A broken reel was already mentioned earlier. I agree it's more a novelty and collector item. True, easier than tape cassette, but C64 floppies and floppy drives (and now ram-based drives) are more rampant, cheaper, larger storage sizes and easier to use, if we're thinking along the lines of usability.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a discussion over on WOS about the possibility of manufacturing new and improved microdrive carts, and although most agreed that would be a cool thing to do, the manufacturing aspect and finding a company to do it threw up a brick wall, much the same that could be said about QDD wafers I suspect
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two of these, but an important point is that they require their own OS on waver as well iirc.
So you can not just turn on the c64 and load/save from/to it.
It is pretty fast (about speed of normal 1541) but then again, TurboTape ist just as fast and you're better off using that I think.
And you can very well save AR freezes in turboformat to tapes ;-)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

c64web wrote:
Quick Data Drive, any good?

wafers jam on mine every time
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't know if you can do the same to them as you do with cassette tapes.
hit either side of the wafer, except the top, off a hard surface to try and free the cassette.

hope this makes sense.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one with a few disks, some of them have labels with typed names, Motor Mania being one. I don't know if these were official releases or what.
Blanks are easier to locate on ebay as "wafadrive" as that's what the Speccites call them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you check out the menu on lemon Museum, Advertisements, miscellaneous, page 3. At the bottom there is an ad for the QDD.

It gives a list of 'Wafers' that they had for sale.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Phanthom Cartridge Quick Data Drive Reply with quote

Hi,

Does anybody has the Bin file for the Phanthom Cartridge that was supplied with the Quick Data Drive? I need it so that I can build the cartridge myself and not have to load the qos from wafers.

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