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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it possible

I've read up to this point, saw your handle and I have to say: If it's you who is asking, the answer is no. Wildstar, I told you a number of times that the Chameleon is a very bad cartridge for you. Please don't buy it. You're much better off with a 1541U or an MCC-216.

Everyone else: Keep those suggestions coming Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter has just uploaded a test/development core with preliminary turbo to his site. Note that this is not a beta-release but a true test-core. It has a few fixes, but also the drawback of REU not working at all in this state of develpoment. Read all about it on the Yahoo mailing list, for example which pokes you need to activate the turbo, and what that CPU-speedometer is all about that's shown at the top of the VGA screen.

Note that the speedometer can drop significantly below 100% - that's because the VIC can stop the CPU in so-called "badlines". Lots of cache-hits can bring it up to 10x speed, with varying results on different programs.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just ran Stunt Car Racer with dev5. it was a bit glitchy, but fast and fun. need speed settings next.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wildstar wrote:
Is it possible

I've read up to this point, saw your handle and I have to say: If it's you who is asking, the answer is no. Wildstar, I told you a number of times that the Chameleon is a very bad cartridge for you. Please don't buy it. You're much better off with a 1541U or an MCC-216.

Everyone else: Keep those suggestions coming Wink

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Yes, so.... Huh

I do intend to buy a 1541U or 1541U-II but I do intend to buy a Chameleon cartridge. I feel there is an issue that you are holding. I really don't want to resolve whatever our issue(s) / difference(s) from years ago (C-One?) in public Jens. Eating popcorn

Jens, I have simply pre-ordered it and waiting until later this year or when the Stable release comes about. So I am patient. Cartridge
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really don't want to resolve whatever our issue(s) / difference(s) from years ago (C-One?) in public Jens.

It's not C-One specific, but Wildstar-specific. You're in my mailfilter and therefore you cannot get any product support. You are on full moderation on the mailinglists that are owned by "people with common sense".

Since you cannot get any product support, you *will* be dissatisfied with any product that you may buy from me or my resellers. Since you'll be wining about these products in public and other people find that wining using search engines, they might not be able to properly judge what you're writing. Long-term members of the Commodore scene know that it'll be typical Wildstar-babble, but since we're also addressing new customers, they will surely not know you as the clown you've demonstrated to be over the past decade, and actually take your opinion(s) seriously.

As a public service to the growing Commodore community, I ask you now and for all future to not buy any of my products, and not to babble about them. Just keep quiet and buy any other product. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really don't want to resolve whatever our issue(s) / difference(s) from years ago (C-One?) in public Jens.

It's not C-One specific, but Wildstar-specific. You're in my mailfilter and therefore you cannot get any product support. You are on full moderation on the mailinglists that are owned by "people with common sense".

Since you cannot get any product support, you *will* be dissatisfied with any product that you may buy from me or my resellers. Since you'll be wining about these products in public and other people find that wining using search engines, they might not be able to properly judge what you're writing. Long-term members of the Commodore scene know that it'll be typical Wildstar-babble, but since we're also addressing new customers, they will surely not know you as the clown you've demonstrated to be over the past decade, and actually take your opinion(s) seriously.

As a public service to the growing Commodore community, I ask you now and for all future to not buy any of my products, and not to babble about them. Just keep quiet and buy any other product. Thank you.

Jens

Jens,

Hold on a sec. Jens. Yes, I made an a$$-clown of myself on the C-One forum and other forums, newsgroups and IRC channels including this forum but frankly, I don't have the inclination to do those things that caused me some 5-8 years of the flack, ridicule, etc. I learned that those actions I have done is NOT worth it.

You are making too much assumption about what I might do. Jens, I am not going to do those things that you are saying because it is not worth it for me to do so.

I am simply looking for a straight forward and simple purchase of the item and then use it.

Can we simply have a straight forward and simple purchase of the Chameleon and stop all this non-sense about me "being disappointed" and "whining all over the internet...". Don't make an issue if you don't have one.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a problem updating my Chameleon:

I execute chaco and I do what the manual says. On the Chaco screen reads:

Found Chameleon on USB bus
08:08:36 Got Chameleon device
08:08:36 Chameleon up and running...
08:08:36 Chameleon Version: 10
08:08:36 PORTD0 status: 0


I flash the cartridge and then appears:

08:09:56 CoreFile: C:\Documents and Settings\Usuari\Mis documentos\c64\Chameleon\Beta-4\chameleon_v5_beta4.rbf Size: 367322
08:09:56 RomFile: C:\Documents and Settings\Usuari\Mis documentos\c64\Chameleon\Beta-4\rom-menu.bin Size: 655360
08:09:56 Erasing sector...
08:09:56 Flash status: 0
08:10:01 Erasing complete.
08:10:01 Programming...
08:11:30 Flashing complete.


When I push the button: Start from selected slot:

08:13:20 Size of Core: 367322
08:13:20 SPI is offline again
08:13:20 nStatus got low while writing bytes
08:13:20 config done is still low!


The card doesn't run. What do I do wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you press "search chameleon" so it finds the chameleon on the USB again. Then try running the slot you flashed.

I wil upload a video on flashing the chameleon 64 this may help. i will try to get it done today.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I have press the Search Chameleon button. I wait for your video. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bieno wrote:

[b]08:09:56 CoreFile: C:\Documents and Settings\Usuari\Mis documentos\c64\Chameleon\Beta-4\chameleon_v5_beta4.rbf Size: 367322


That's all correct. The beta-4 core is 367319 bytes, and the extra three bytes are added automatically by Chaco as a header. However, you might want to compare the file with the download archive, maybe something went wrong unpacking it?

The only thing I can think of is the space in the path name "Mis documentos" - please try using a path name that does not have spaces in the name (not sure if that might play a role).

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done it several times, with or without the 64. The problem began when I flash the beta 4cmd.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bieno wrote:
I've done it several times, with or without the 64. The problem began when I flash the beta 4cmd.

Use the commandline tool for Windows. The GUI of ChaCo is fairly unstable and has serious threading issues, which the commandline version does not have.

Also, please note that this is not a support forum. If you have trouble, please contact me through the web form of www.icomp.de or subscribe to the Yahoo mailinglist that I have mentioned frequently in this thread and also in the manual. I don't check this forum too often, but you sure want to get help in time.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry about the video quility. i only have a pocket video camera at moment.
i need to get better hardware for the PC to do this better.

Here are the Chameleon flashing videos.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do the same as you, but it doesn't run.
The red light from the card flashes every 1,5 seconds all the time, even in the flashing process and when its connected alone on the 64. Is that normal?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I do the same as you, but it doesn't run.
The red light from the card flashes every 1,5 seconds all the time, even in the flashing process and when its connected alone on the 64. Is that normal?


I have never seen the LED flash in that way. usually when you get flashing LEDs its an error code/flash pattern. contact jens on the yahoo group about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bieno wrote:
I do the same as you, but it doesn't run.
The red light from the card flashes every 1,5 seconds all the time, even in the flashing process and when its connected alone on the 64. Is that normal?


The flashing red LED just means that the first slot of the flashrom is corrupted. Nothing to worry about - just re-flash the unit. However, like I wrote before, dont use the GUI version, as it obviously fails on your machine. Use the commandline version, that's extremely stable and fully functional.

If you don't know how to use a commandline tool, I can make a double-clickable batch file for you. However, should that really be required, you should re-think your self-assessment of being a betatester.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing i noticed is that it wont flash when i have it connected to one of my USB hubs. I will have to test that a bit more. I know that the USB only carries the data lines on that connector to the Chameleon 64. no power is connected.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another thing i noticed is that it wont flash when i have it connected to one of my USB hubs.


Interesting - can you reproduce the bug with the commandline version?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CMDline works fine with the USB hub. I tryed the GUI again and it timed out and displayed this:
00:00:01 LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT

I posted this to the yahoo group too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not that it really matters, but ... i can get the most weird results when using a powered hub - which isnt actually powered on. took me a minute or two to notice =)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sticking with the CMDline version for flashing and selecting the slots to run from the Chameleon menu.

Making .bat files are easy to make with note pad.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi betatesters,

I have just uploaded the beta-5 release to the beta-site http://beta.icomp.de
This time, I Have made an automatic update script that you can just double-click in the Windows Explorer, just in case you haven't been successful with the commandline version of ChaCo before.

If you prefer the GUI version on the operating system of your choice, this is just as good: There's still the usual *.rbf file for the core, and the *.bin file for the menu software ("roms").

Changes? LOTS OF THEM!

If you didn't try the intermediate development version, here's what this development version already did:

- Framebuffer writes now use MMU.
- Framebuffer writes can be switched off (buffer can be used by software)
- Cartridge buttons emulated on PS/2 keyboard (F11,F12 and PrintScreen)
- Chameleon can use real BASIC and Kernal ROMs in machine in cartridge mode.
- Emulated IEC bus can be disconnected from C64 (Chameleon is drive emu)
- FLI bug fixed
- Added Stereo SID support
- Turbo feature added
- Relative CPU speed displayed in VGA debug bar.

The beta-5 release version has the following added on top:

- Speedup of turbo (MMU caches most recent used value)
- Speedup of turbo by eliminating one clock cycle from critical path
- $01 I/O port status added to VGA debug bar
- Hard-reset in menu forces reboot to prevent possible MMC cart curruption
- Left button can perform various functions (menu, expert cartridge switch, turbo)
- TOD clock fixes. Support 50Hz and 60Hz depending on VIC-II type.
- Turbo has configurable speed limit (2x, 3x.. 6x)
- Button debounce improved (less likely to see multiple presses).
- non-turbo CPU speed in standalone mode more accurate:
Switches depending on VIC-II type between 0.985 and 1.022 Mhz
- VGA output is double-buffered to eliminate tearing effects when picture is scrolling.
- Memory areas can be made read-only with highest bit of MMU.

So far for Peter's hardware/core changes. Tobias has done LOTS of work on the menu, and it's just "too much to list" here. The menu has it's own readme file of about 13KBytes, and I really encourage you to read it, and browse through all the menu items. All settings can now be persisted in the Chameleon onboard flash (yep, onboard flash, not the SD-card!), so your config is back where you've saved it if you switch on next time. To save your settings, scroll all the way down in the options menu - that's where you find the "save" button.

While inserting a d64 is possible with this software update, please note that compatibility of the emulated drive is still poor. It's very high on our todo-list right now, and planned to be fixed in beta-6.

Tobias and I will be at the Revision party this coming weekend - see http://www.revision-party.net/ We're proud to be an official sponsor of that party. Hope to see some of you guys there!

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Updated and running........
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: Minimg core for Chameleon now official Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

TobiFlexx has solved the startup problems that the early Minimig core for Chameleon had. I have now uploaded the core to http://beta.icomp.de

This core supports:

- any kickstart version from 0.7 to 3.1, including versions with integrated IDE drivers
- up to four emulated floppy drives
- 68020 acceleration (in alpha state - more than four times the speed of an A500!)
- up to 11.5MBytes usable memory
- support for up to two hardfiles (master/slave) at the same time, using an emulated A600-compatible IDE port

There is no joytick or Infrared support yet. Please do read the readme in the download archive!

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This minimig compability has risen my interest on chameleon, but is there any possible way to attach joystick to chameleon?
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