The SIDs work at the same time it is handy for comparing SID chips and just testing them. the 4 caps i just soldered them in a socket so they can be removed whenever. the regulator socket has a jump wire. for 12 volt through or put a 9V reg in for 8580 and change caps.
not the same as SID2SID board.

nice job mate

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Just my 2cents.

Hi SID experts !
I am planning to build a MB-6580 and just got the eight 8580 required.
I also have a good old C64 but no way to plug a screen as I do not have the proper cable and/or screen...
So do these 8580 seem OK to you ?
Thanks !

hi tupinamba
welcome to the forum

the sids you have seem to be ok as far as the four number date code

the date code is as follows the first 2 numbers are the week and the 2nd 2 numbers are the year so 4888 would be the 48th week of 1988
0590 would be the 5th week of 1990 and so on
as for the other2numbers 25 will probably be a palntnumber or a batch code

hope this helps
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So from the initial post in this thread it would have been manufactured in week 5 in 1911... Unless it's some pre-production model or similar where that code indicates something completely different.

If you want to test your SID you may want to try all standard soundwaves as well. Not only one frequency on each voice and then the filters...

I added a quit button to the three voices test (that could be used initially), it would be handy with both programs baked into one and of course also a recording of how a proper chip of different models should sound...

Hold S and it will quit with silence.

Code:

10 forl=54272to54296:pokel,0:next:poke54296,15:gosub60 20 pokew,17:pokea,9:pokehf,15:pokelf,35:pokes,128:gosub50:gosub70 30 pokew,17:pokea,9:pokehf,20:pokelf,40:pokes,128:gosub50:gosub80 40 pokew,17:pokea,9:pokehf,25:pokelf,50:pokes,128:gosub50:goto10 50 geta$:ifa$="s"then90 55 forx=1to2000:nextx:return 60 w=54276:a=54277:hf=54273:lf=54272:s=54278:return 70 w=54283:a=54284:hf=54280:lf=54279:s=54285:return 80 w=54290:a=54291:hf=54287:lf=54286:s=54292:return 90 poke54296,0

I also get a syntax error on row 40. It says ^ in that row which is translated into "pi" when cut and paste into VICE, but I'm guessing it is supposed to be "the power of"-sign - the arrow - changed it (and now it's tilde-sign in the listing but correct in VICE). Be sure to change {left} {up} to the cursor characters for those directions.

Also added a filter selection row:

Code:

10 printchr$(147) 20 print"low(l), band(b) or high(h) filter":print:fl=64 30 geta$:ifa$=""then30 40 ifa$="l"then70 50 ifa$="b"then80 60 ifa$="h"then90:goto30 70 fl=16:print"low-pass":goto100 80 fl=32:print"band-pass":goto100 90 print"high-pass" 100 poke54296,15+fl:rem filters:  +16=low-pass, +32=band-pass, +64=high-pass 110 forv=1to3:print:print"voice";v:forl=54272to54295:pokel,0:next 120 onvgosub170,180,190:pokehf,15:pokelf,35:pokehp,8:pokelp,0:pokea,9:pokes,128 130 pokew,65:poke54295,2~(v-1)+128:forp=0to1 140 forf=0to2047step9:gosub160:next:forf=2047to0step-9:gosub160:next:next:next 150 forl=54272to54296:pokel,0:next:goto200 160 printf;"{left} {up}":poke54294,f/8:poke54293,fand7:return 170 w=54276:a=54277:s=54278:hf=54273:lf=54272:hp=54275:lp=54274:return 180 w=54283:a=54284:s=54285:hf=54280:lf=54279:hp=54282:lp=54281:return 190 w=54290:a=54291:s=54292:hf=54287:lf=54286:hp=54289:lp=54288:return 200 print:print"again(y/n)" 210 geta$:ifa$=""then210 220 ifa$="y"thenrun

well from the initial post they would have been produced in week 5 yes and 2011 there is no doubt that the sids in the initial post have had the numbers re printed
in fact there is also some fake sid chips made in the far east but they are no teve nsid sthis doesnt happen just to sids other devices have also been faked in the far east in fact some of the fakes are a totally empty there is no silicon in the package but if it can 20 bucks then it is worth for trouble to fake it

after all criminals will print any number on the dil package you want as long as it fetches a good price

as for the 4 digit code on mos devices well mos used the 4 digit code on all their chips just look in a c64 or a vic20 plus 4 etc etc

now im not saying that the devices in the 1st post are fakes but the labelling has been re printed for sure...
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Here are the combined sound test programs from earlier in this thread. You can copy and paste the code directly into VICE without the need to change anything.

I'm guessing there already are software with more extensive testing.

Code:

10 forl=54272to54296:pokel,0:next:poke54296,0 20 printchr$(147) 30 print"test voices(v) or filter(f)?" 40 geta$:ifa$="v"then70 50 ifa$="f"then170 60 goto40 70 print:print"hold q to quit" 80 forl=54272to54296:pokel,0:next:poke54296,15:gosub140 90 pokew,17:pokea,9:pokehf,15:pokelf,35:pokes,128:gosub120:gosub150 100 pokew,17:pokea,9:pokehf,20:pokelf,40:pokes,128:gosub120:gosub160 110 pokew,17:pokea,9:pokehf,25:pokelf,50:pokes,128:gosub120:goto80 120 geta$:ifa$="q"thenrun 130 forx=1to2000:nextx:return 140 w=54276:a=54277:hf=54273:lf=54272:s=54278:return 150 w=54283:a=54284:hf=54280:lf=54279:s=54285:return 160 w=54290:a=54291:hf=54287:lf=54286:s=54292:return 170 printchr$(147) 180 print"low(l), band(b) or high(h) filter":print:fl=64 190 geta$:ifa$=""then190 200 ifa$="l"then240 210 ifa$="b"then250 220 ifa$="h"then260 230 goto190 240 fl=16:print"low-pass":goto270 250 fl=32:print"band-pass":goto270 260 print"high-pass" 270 poke54296,15+fl:rem filters:  +16=low-pass, +32=band-pass, +64=high-pass 280 forv=1to3:print:print"voice";v:forl=54272to54295:pokel,0:next 290 onvgosub340,350,360:pokehf,15:pokelf,35:pokehp,8:pokelp,0:pokea,9:pokes,128 300 pokew,65:poke54295,2~(v-1)+128:forp=0to1:rem ~ shows as arrow up in vice 310 forf=0to2047step9:gosub330:next:forf=2047to0step-9:gosub330:next:next:next 320 forl=54272to54296:pokel,0:next:goto370 330 printf;chr$(157);chr$(145):poke54294,f/8:poke54293,fand7:return 340 w=54276:a=54277:s=54278:hf=54273:lf=54272:hp=54275:lp=54274:return 350 w=54283:a=54284:s=54285:hf=54280:lf=54279:hp=54282:lp=54281:return 360 w=54290:a=54291:s=54292:hf=54287:lf=54286:hp=54289:lp=54288:return 370 print:print"again(y/n)" 380 geta$:ifa$=""then380 390 ifa$="y"thenrun

What is this "supposed" to sound like? I ran it on my C128 and it seems one of the voices is completely blown.

I had somebody look at it and they told me the filters were bad but it seems it has a whole broken voice now.

also, from the complete all in one listing, what is line 300 supposed to look like because I get a syntax error and I think it's because of a copy/paste error in Vice.
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The ~ needs to be a ^ doing an exponent

Code:

300 pokew,65:poke54295,2^(v-1)+128:forp=0to1:rem ^ shows as arrow up in vice

Maybe that's why it says so in the comment.

But it doesn't change to arrow up, it shows as a question mark if copied into WinVICE.

Arrow up is usually found on the Del-button if you want to correct it.
I copied from WinVICE 2.4 - then it was copied correctly:

Code:

300 pokew,65:poke54295,2^(v-1)+128:forp=0to1

Right, so after a total nightmare trying to get the right keys pressed I got it entered, but is the filter test meant to do anything other than play a single tone and count numbers up and down?
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There's a difference in sound hopefully, at least between the top and low numbers. If not then there might be a problem with the filter - I'm not familiar how much filtering various revisions usually have though.

I quickly browsed the thread so excuse me if someone has already posted this.

Sidbench is a native C64 prg, that goes thru all the functions of a SID.You can find it at CSDB, and probably other places, too. I always use it to test my sids, it's easy and fast. You just have to listen carefully.

I had a voice missing. "listen carefully" wasn't an issue.

Due to the other machine having a different SID I ordered a swinsid on eBay, fingers crossed it sounds ok.
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