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Forum Junkie

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 536 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: Hello from the frozen Prairies |
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There's a few Manitobans on this site. I'm one of them. Although I'm really an Ontarian in disguise, even born in the GTA... so feel free to hate me, you 'tobans. (This is only my 3rd winter here...)
But I've been a Commodore user since 1985 or so. Our elementary school had C64s and ICONs in the classrooms. Obviously, the ICON was a piece of work, but the C64 was actually fun. My parents used a good chunk of my paper route money to buy a C64. (With my permission... I had been begging...)
Funny thing is, the store where we got it included a pirated disk with several games. Thus began the honorable hobby of getting copied games rather than purchasing them. As of now I have more purchased games than I did at any time as a kid. Ebay (especially Eli Tomlinson's store) has been very helpful.
Along the way I did a bit of coding. If I ever bother getting an xe-1541 cable I'll be sure to subject you all to the demo my brother and I made. All in BASIC, all crap.
Many fond memories of typing in proggies from the Compute's Gazette. Even subscribed to it for the last year of its publication as a paper magazine (as part of Compute).
Cheers all. And for the record, my nick is qaz112 instead of qaz1 because of qazi, whose name was so close to mine when I signed on.
(EDIT: This 112=1 because at one point there was a region of Canada which used 112 as the signifier for dialling long distance...) _________________ Proud Canuck and user of C64 systems since 1985. |
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Master of C64


Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 1470 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Hello from the frozen Prairies |
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| qaz112 wrote: | | But I've been a Commodore user since 1985 or so. Our elementary school had C64s and ICONs in the classrooms. Obviously, the ICON was a piece of work, but the C64 was actually fun. |
Ah, the good old ICON. Our high school got duped into buying those too. I guess the neat thing about them at the time was the UNIX-like OS (called QNX?) and the GUIish front end, using the build-in trackball, and the built-in networking.
The bad thing was that the network was horrifically slow, where if everyone tried to launch an app at once, it could seriously take 20 minutes for everyone to be up and running. I guess the server had some serious thrashing problems, since if everyone took turns, everyone would be up in 5 minutes. Of course, we'd ignore the teacher's attempts to do everything orderly, and waste class time as a result
I don't have an ICON, but I do have some documentation from them, and a bunch of 3-ring binders with the ICON logo on them.
Did some googling, and yup, QNX, some more info here. ICON is even mentioned. _________________
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Immortal Grandmaster of C64


Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Age: 43 Posts: 5787 Location: Toronto, CANADA
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: |
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The reason all of our schools had ICONs is because they were developed expressly for schools in Ontario. Every Ontarian our age who is interested in computers has a story about banging their heads on the wall waiting for the ICON to complete disk operations. My goodness, they were so slow. Don't blame QNX though, it's a fantastic real-time OS. Blame the underpowered 80186 CPU, the lack of RAM and the glacially paced ARCNET.
There was one good thing about the ICONs. Their arrival rendered the PETs and 64s surplus so the principal decided to disperse the old computers throughout the school. Every classroom had at least one and there were a bunch of them in the library too which made it much easier to get time on them. The best part was that the electronics teacher managed to acquire more than his fair share which was great because all of us computer geeks use to hang out in the electronics lab. Ah, the joys of unfettered access.
If you want more info on the ICON, have a gander at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unisys_ICON. |
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Grandmaster of C64


Joined: 31 Dec 2001 Age: 34 Posts: 1652 Location: stranger in a strange land
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Team Member & At Large


Joined: 31 Dec 2001 Age: 41 Posts: 1805 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome!
Always see you posting in the mini-chat but its good to see you posting the main forum too... _________________ |
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Grandmaster of C64


Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Posts: 1591 Location: Arkanix Labs
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Hello from the frozen Prairies |
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| qaz112 wrote: | | And for the record, my nick is qaz112 instead of qaz1 because of qazi, whose name was so close to mine when I signed on. |
Welcome!
I don't think it's possible to confuse anybody with qazi. He's, er, "unique"...  _________________
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Contributor of Coverscans!


Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Age: 28 Posts: 2166 Location: U.Kingdom... '/': OR, not OF.
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Forum Junkie

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 536 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Roger: Correct response is, "Not nearly enough." _________________ Proud Canuck and user of C64 systems since 1985. |
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Forum Junkie


Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 537 Location: Dortmund, Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| qaz112 wrote: | | If I ever bother getting an xe-1541 cable I'll be sure to subject you all to the demo my brother and I made. All in BASIC, all crap. |
XM1541- or XA1541-cable would be better in most cases.
Reasons to be found on this board. |
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Forum Junkie

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 536 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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OK. I have a PentiumII-300MHz machine with a 6 Gig HD of which I was planning on dedicating about a gig to C64 usage. Figured whatever cable would work would work, as it were.
If I want to use 64HDD, that pretty much eliminates the whole XM/XA family, but if I want to use cbm4win, that excises XE... so give me a hand here. If my primary purpose is to use .d64 files from the hdd and/or xfer back and forth, which is better? _________________ Proud Canuck and user of C64 systems since 1985. |
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Forum Junkie


Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 537 Location: Dortmund, Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:45 am Post subject: |
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I'm in a hurry right now.
Best option is to get an XE- or XM-cable and additionally get an XE-XM-converter, so you have practically both cables. Or you try to get a cable with an embedded switch, which switches between XE and XM mode.
Cbm4win is for transferring files between PC and floppy drive and 64HDD is an cbm drive emulator, PC and C64 are connected in the latter case. |
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Contributor of Coverscans!


Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Age: 28 Posts: 2166 Location: U.Kingdom... '/': OR, not OF.
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Grandmaster of C64


Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Posts: 1591 Location: Arkanix Labs
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Forum Junkie

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 536 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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So much for my introduction thread  _________________ Proud Canuck and user of C64 systems since 1985. |
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Contributor of Coverscans!


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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Grandmaster of C64


Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Posts: 1591 Location: Arkanix Labs
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| qaz112 wrote: | So much for my introduction thread  |
Apologies for the slight "hijack"...  _________________
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Forum Junkie

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 536 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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No worries. _________________ Proud Canuck and user of C64 systems since 1985. |
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Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| qaz112 wrote: |
If I want to use 64HDD, that pretty much eliminates the whole XM/XA family, but if I want to use cbm4win, that excises XE... so give me a hand here. If my primary purpose is to use .d64 files from the hdd and/or xfer back and forth, which is better? |
Just build an XE or XM cable, and put a switch which lets you swap the two relevent lines. This way, you can use whatever you like.
Regards,
- Spiro. _________________
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Forum Junkie

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 536 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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XE cable works fine on my old PII-300 box. No parallel port on my XP machine (a lappy) so until someone figures out a brilliant way to connect a Commodore serial cable to USB, XE is good enough for me. _________________ Proud Canuck and user of C64 systems since 1985. |
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Groupie


Joined: 27 Dec 2002 Age: 32 Posts: 168 Location: Sudbury/Fredericton, Canada
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C64 Enthusiast


Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Age: 39 Posts: 948 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Cool intro guv'nor - welcome from a fellow c64-er from London  _________________ |
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